.: questions about moe. on the internet :.

1.1 What is the MOE-L?
1.2 How can I join it?
1.3 How do I post to the list?
1.4 What can I post to the list?
1.5 Are there alternative ways to read the list?
1.6 What if I no longer wish to receive mail from the MOE-L?
1.7 Can I get moe.info via e-mail with out being on the MOE-L?
1.8 Where is the archive for the MOE-L located?
1.9 Where can I discuss digital moe.?
1.10 What if I only want news and setlists?
1.11 What fan-based archives are available and where are they?
1.12 Is there an IRC channel?
1.13 Does moe. have an official web site?

1.1 What is the MOE-L?

The MOE-L is a mailing list discussion group dedicated to fans of moe. It provides a space for them to discuss the band, review shows and trade live shows. * to top *


1.2 How can I join it?

Point your browser to http://groups.google.com/group/moe-l and follow the directions. *Do not* send requests to join the list to the list itself. It will not get you subscribed to the list and will only result in every member of the list receiving your request. * to top *


1.3 How do I post to the list?

Send mail to moe-l@googlegroups.com. * to top *


1.4 What can I post to the list?

This list is dedicated to moe. and moe. is the prime topic of discussion. Fans discuss shows, tapes and often set-up gatherings to meet other listers. While often times topics may include other bands, and general information regarding such is appreciated, posts that are not related may not be tolerated by some listers. Please remember that every message you send to moe-l@googlegroups.com is read by hundreds of people. If you are new to mailing lists, please read a file on basic Netiquette, as there are certain do's and don'ts in cyberspace. Two very good web sites dedicated to Netiquette can be reached at:

http://www.primenet.com/~vez/neti.html
http://www.fau.edu/rinaldi/netiquette.html

As time permits, many band members do in fact read the list as do many members of the moe. Organization. moe. takes a sincere interest in what is said.

Please do not send HTML encoded documents to the list. It makes it difficult on users who receive the digest. * to top *


1.5 Are there alternative ways to read the list?

Yes, after you join the list you will be able to set your subscription options through http://groups.google.com/group/moe-l to either receive individual or digested messages. * to top *


1.6 What if I no longer wish to receive mail from the MOE-L?

Again, going to http://groups.google.com/group/moe-l will givc you all your unsubscribe options. * to top *


1.7 Can I get moe.info via e-mail with out being on the MOE-L?

You sure can! moe.info is a special, low volume, informational mailing list devoted to important announcements, tour dates and set lists. It's a one-way list, straight from moe.central. To subscribe, send an e-mail message to moe.info@moe.org with a subject message of "subscribe" and you'll be added to the list. * to top *


1.8 Where is the archive for the MOE-L located?

If you are interested in what has been discussed in the past, MOE-L messages are archived on the google page:
http://groups.google.com/group/moe-l

Messages from the old Netspace server from 2-13-96 through 2-13-06 are at:
http://lists.netspace.org/archives/moe-l.html

Messages from the old server moe@Shinbone.Psych.Brown.Edu, dating from 1-19-96 through 2-13-96 can be found at the old aol site:
ftp://users.aol.com/MoeTapes/ [This site is no longer active] * to top *


1.9 Where can I discuss digital moe.?

digimoe is a list related to the discussion of all things DAT and all things moe. The list is maintained by Andrew Harrison. You can subscribe via the web at the Yahoo! groups page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digimoe/join?referer=1

This is a low-volume list, and pretty much extinct list. You can also subscribe via the link on the list homepage located at:
http://cryptical.8m.com/

Every message board and list now discusses digital moe. * to top *


1.10 What if I only want news and setlists?

moe-setlist is a list which provides up to date news and verified setlists from most recent shows. You can subsribe to the list by going to the webpage at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/moe-setlist/join?referer=1 * to top *


1.11 What fan-based archives are available and where are they?

These days, all the archives are based within moeLinks:
~mindy reznik. maintains moeLinks, a comprehensive guide to the world of moe. on the internet.
That Setlist File, maintained by James Paddock, is also there: http://www.moelinks.com/setlists/index.html* to top *


1.12 Is there an IRC channel?

moe.rons can be found hanging out on channel #moe. (please note the period, or you will not be on the correct channel). You'll need an IRC client like mIRC, GlobalChat or ircle to participate (or try typing "irc" from a Unix shell account). On occasion, a band or crew member has been known to drop in.* to top *


1.13 Does moe. have an official website?

moe. maintains its official web site at:
http://www.moe.org/

This site contains tour dates as well as updated news about the band. It is updated periodically. When the site is updated, the members of the list are usually informed by the band and organization. If they don't let you know often enough for your liking, you can register for NetMind. NetMind ia a service that will send you an e-mail as updates are made to web pages you register with them. * to top *

 

.: topics that have been extensively discussed on the internet :.

2.1 It is all right for me to make copies of out of print recordings?
2.2 How can I get into 18+ or 21+ shows?
2.3 Don't you think it's time for a NEWSGROUP?
2.4 "moe. sucks" / "Phish sucks" posts.
2.5 Why would you spell it "Ph*sh"?
2.6 Why does it take so long for dates to be posted at moe.org?

2.1 It is all right for me to make copies of out of print recordings?

While it is unfortunate that some of moe.'s official releases are out of print and no longer available, they are still copyrighted by the band. While there are no plans to re-release any of the out of print material they remain intellectual property of the band and are not public domain. * to top *


2.2 How can I get into 18+ or 21+ shows?

moe. tries to play as many all ages shows as possible, but it is not always possible. When moe. does play venues with age restrictions, the only way to get into the show is to be that age. It is the band's hope that the fans will respect the rules set up by the club. They do not condone fake I.D.'s, sneaking in, rubbing the stamp, etc. which could damage the band's relationship with that particular venue.

With moe.'s rising popularity this topic does not apply as much as it once did, however, it may, from time to time, still arise. All ages shows are the norm at this time. * to top *


2.3 Don't you think it's time for a NEWSGROUP?

Periodically the discussion to move to a newsgroup from the MOE-L comes up. Generally, the consensus on the list has been to maintain itself as an e-mail list. Many feel that a newsgroup environment would open the list up and make it more prone to spamming. Others enjoy the close-knit community a e-mail list can provide. Many good e-mail programs have filters which would enable you to drop MOE-L mail into a separate folder, preventing inbox clogging. * to top *


2.4 "moe. sucks" / "Phish sucks" posts.

Posts such as these fall into the category of "flame-bait". There of fans of both bands (as well as many, many other bands) on this list. The flame wars that can start due to such posts are best stopped by ignoring them. There is plenty of good moe. related content on the list. * to top *


2.5 Why would you spell it "Ph*sh"?

This started as a joke about the flame wars that had begun on the list because of the above mentioned topics. The use has become pretty widespread on the list. It is not intended to be derogatory. * to top *


2.6 Why does it take so long for dates to be posted at moe.org?

Sometimes venues and ticker services may have dates posted before they are up on moe.org.

Topper responds to this frequently asked question:
"What is going on is that I have not contracted the gigs that are up for sale yet and the venues want to get them up because it is only a month away. I do not believe in putting them up until I am sure we are doing them. They should be going up soon." * to top *

 

.: questions about the band and organization :.

3.1 Who is moe.?
3.2 Band History.
3.2.1 Band Update from Chuck - February 2001.
3.3 Discography.
3.4 Other Recordings
3.5 Have there been any official video releases?
3.6 Why does(n't) my copy of Loaf have a white cover?
3.7 What in tarnation is Rob saying?
3.8 The band can't do all this work alone, who else is in the organization?
3.9 How can I find out about tour dates?
3.10 How do I get on the snail-mailing list?
3.11 How can I contact the band?
3.12 How can I contact the band's management?
3.13 Who is the band's production company?
3.14 Who do I contact in order to book the band?
3.15 Who do I contact regarding promotion of the band?

3.1 Who is moe.?

This week moe. is:

Chuck Garvey: Guitars, Talkbox and Vocals (Chuck also used to play the occasional Flute and Sax)
Al Schnier: Guitars, Lapsteel, Cowbell and Vocals (Al also used to play Percussion in the early days)
Rob Derhak: Electric Upright Bass, Electric Bass and Vocals
Vinnie Amico: Drums
Jim Loughlin: Percussion, Flute, Bass, Washboard & Acoustic Guitar * to top *


3.2 Band History.

The following is a post from Chuck from when the list first began. It has been slightly updated (updates are noted by [NOTE:]).

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Subj: *** moe. history file *** (take one)
Date: Thu, Jan 25, 1996 3:05 AM EDT
From: (Brendan P. O'Neill)
To: moe@Shinbone.Psych.Brown.Edu

moe. history
This is by no means complete, but if you want to know vaguely what happened to us, this is about all that we remember.

bass, vocals: Rob Derhak
drums: Ray Schwartz
guitar, vocals: Chuck Garvey

The three of us got together by the suggestion of a friend of Rays. She wanted us to play at her house for Halloween and we complied.

Halloween 1989
Set list in no particular order: Green Earrings ( Steely Dan ), The One I Love ( R.E.M . ), The Munsters theme, Purple Haze, Melt With You ( Modern English).... you get the picture. We've tried to forget.
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bass, vocal: Rob
guit, vocal: Chuck
drums: Ray
guit: Dave Kessler
sax, vocal: Steve ?

The band actually forms in winter of 1990. Dave, Ray and Steve were playing with another bass player, but we all decide to start playing together. We were called "Five Guys Named Moe" from the Louis Jordan tune of the same name. We opened up for a band of especially good sports named Monkey Wrench at Broadway Joe's in Buffalo, NY. Thanks Timo.
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rob,
chuck,
ray,
dave

In Fall of 90, Steve quits the band. We rename ourselves "Haggis" for one week, but soon go to moe without the period. Rob pushed for the Moe , but a Brooklyn band of that name already exists. Ray likes "Canned Pastries" and "Soft White Underbelly".
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Rob: bass, vocals
Chuck: guitar, vocals
Ray: drums
Dave: guitar
Al Schnier: guitar, conga

Al filled in for absent Dave at a party at chicklets house in Buffalo. He played guitar and a conga. After that, he played back up guitar for several gigs - part time. (yes, there were three guitar players in the band . We were known as the moe guitar army.) At this time we also began to use the period at the end of moe in typewriter letters. In January of 1992 Al is inducted as official third guitarist. In Feb. of 1992 moe. goes out of town for the first time to Oneonta, NY. In Spring of 1992 Dave phases out due to lack of interest.
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Rob: bass, voc
Chuck: guitar, voc
Al: guitar, voc
Ray -----> Jim: drums

June of 1992: moe. records Fatboy. At the end of mixing, Ray leaves to go to grad school. In September of 1992, Jim Loughlin officially joins the band as drummer. In the summer of 1993, Chuck quits the band at a bad time for two months then begs for readmittance and more abuse. In Spring of 1994, moe. records Headseed. moe. officially and finally quit their day jobs, move to Albany, NY (of all places!) and go Full Time all in the Fall of 1994. Headseed was released in October of 1994, just a month after moe.s first tour down south.
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In March of 1995, Brendan O'Neill joined the band as Audio Engineer for moe.s first trip out west to the Rockies. June 1995, Jim Loughlin leaves band to play with Yolk , from Binghamton NY.

[NOTE: Jim's last show was 7.15.95]
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Rob: bass, voc
Chuck: guitar, voc
Al: guitar, voc
Mike Strazza: drums

Late July 95 Mike joins the band. In Sept. , Mike quits but agrees to play through the end of the year. Thanksgiving weekend of 95 - moe. records Loaf during two nights at the Wetlands in NYC.

[NOTE: Mike played with moe. publicly between 7.22.95 and 12.9.95]
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Rob: bass, voc
Chuck: guitar, voc
Al: guitar, voc
Chris Mazur: drums

December 29th 1995: Chris Mazur (from Pittsburgh, PA) begins playing with moe. in Erie, PA, Washington D.C., and for New Years Eve at the Wetlands, NYC till 7:00 a.m. to a record breaking crowd. Jan. 19th, 1996 - moe. begins its first tour with Chris. Jan. 25th, 1996 - Chuck finishes his glib little history on moe. from Raleigh, NC, where the band is currently traveling their asses off to pay their bills and spread a little bit of lovin.

[NOTE: Chris's last show was 11.17.96. He was replaced by Vinnie Amico who's first appearance was 11.21.96.

Brendan O'Neill was replaced by Steve Young as Front of House Engineer / Monitor Engineer

Drummer #2, Jim Loughlin, returned to the lineup on January 23, 1999. He is playing Percussion, Flute, Bass, Washboard & Acoustic Guitar with the band.]
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Well, that's it for now, time to watch Conan and HBO (we never get to watch cable) and go to sleep. While this little autobiography may be self-serving, not completely true and rife with misinformed, distracting trivia and glaring omissions, it is meant only as mild entertainment of the truly bored, and shouldn't be taken too seriously.

Take it easy and we hope to see you on the road and on the little device you are currently operating to procure this message of great social import.

Chuck. * to top *


3.2.1 Band Update from Chuck - February 2001.

The following is an update provided by Chuck in February 2001 to Dean Budnick and jambands.com. Reprinted with permission.

 

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Stardate: February 6, 2001

Hey! Dither is released today!

Well, here we are again - me sitting in a hotel room somewhere, typing nonsense into a computer. Who'da thunk we would still be talking about this? I guess it's just a pleasant surprise! Thanks to all of the people (like yourself) that read and give a crap about this kind of history, we are able to continue playing, recording and contributing valuable bandwidth to upstanding members of society. Thank you!

I have updated a few details in the preceding section of the moe.timeline, as well as trying to remember the last coupla years.

[Chuck's updates in the previous sections can be seen at http://www.jambands.com/feb01/moe/timeline.html. This section in the FAQ only covers from where we left off...]

Here we go.....
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1996

In February, Mike Wright is hired to tour manage.

In april(?), moe. signs a deal with SONY and in the next six months, records and releases "no doy".

Chris is replaced by longtime friend and Buffalo drummer Vinnie Amico, who played in numerous bands, including Sonic Garden (Dead tribute), Outer Circle Orchestra and Acoustic Forum.

[NOTE: Chris's last show was 11.17.96. He was replaced by Vinnie Amico whose first appearance was 11.21.96.]

Ken "Scippi" (or Skip) Richman is hired to tour manage (replacing Mike Wright). He flies out to Minneapolis to start work on St. Patty's Day, 97. Skip is yet another Buffalo buddy from when the band played to 9 or so friends at Broadway Joe's.

moe. lands a spot on Further Festival for the summer of 1997 and is allowed to grace the same stage as The Black Crowes, Jorma Kaukonen, Arlo Guthrie, Ratdog and Bruce Hornsby among others. Way cool.

Chris Burrows begins working for moe. on their Fall '97 tour.

Fall/winter of 97 - Brendan O'Neill is replaced by Steve Young as Front of House Engineer / Monitor Engineer. Steve (as well as lighting director Chris Ragan) had been with us for a while. Steve was still another Buffalo friend who used to mix and record many of moe.'s early lo-fi Buffalo shows at Broadway Joe's, The curve (once!), Essex St. Pub,...etc......as well as Vinnie's bands.

Most of '97 is spent touring the entire country several times, then in the winter/early spring of '98, moe. records "Tin cans and car tires" with John Alagia and John Siket.

While rehearsing in Maine in January, '99, we decide to call up Jim Loughlin and get him to be the "rover" of the band. He agrees. [Drummer #2, Jim Loughlin, returned to the lineup on January 23, 1999. He is playing Percussion, Flute, Bass, Washboard & Acoustic Guitar with the band.]

April of '99, moe. and SONY part ways after two albums and three years.

August '99, moe plays at the early, "non-riot" part of Woodstock weekend in Rome, NY. The event is simulcast on pay per view worldwide to millions of people.

Late Spring/early Summer of '99, moe. begins studio sessions which, at first, are meant only to be a demo, but 4 or 5 studios later become the year-spanning "Dither" project. At the same time, moe. plays and records live shows with the engineering help of Bill Emmons, who also did work with the band in its San Francisco Dither session. John Siket (with the help of Al) mixes the live shows which are released as "L", as well as co-producing and engineering most of "Dither". "L" is released on moe.'s own label, Fatboy records, in April 2000.

August of 2000, the band does one final overdub, arranging and mixing session in NYC, then finishing up at Bearsville studios.

moe. releases "Dither" on Feb. 6th.

OK, that about does it fer now. I hope that this answers all of the gnawing, burning questions that you may have been grappling with for god knows how long.

We sincerely hope that this history will continue to grow indefinitely and that you will always be a willing, satisfied participant in some way. Achtung! Du liebst moe.! Mach schnell!!!! heh, heh.

Thanks for listening and being so durn cool!

chuck.
Eugene, Oregon - Seattle Washington. February 6-8, 2001. * to top *


3.3 Discography.
3.4 Other Recordings.

The discography has been expanded, and moved out of the FAQ. You can find it located in its own section, here. * to top *


3.5 Have there been any official video releases?

Sony has released two promotional EPKs (electronic press kits). One with the release of No Doy and one with the release of Tin Cans & Car Tires. * to top *


3.6 Why does(n't) my copy of Loaf have a white cover?

The first batch of CDs came out with a mistake from the printer, the blue background was erroneously printed white. This was later corrected, but the first shipment with the white covers were still sold. * to top *


3.7 What in tarnation is Rob saying?

Lyrics for moe.'s songs, some covers and a few bass and guitar tabs are located here. If you'd like to contribute something that's not on the site, please email me. * to top *


3.8 The band can't do all this work alone, who else is in the organization?

For a full list of band, crew, and .org individuals, as well as contact information, please go here. * to top *


3.9 How can I find out about tour dates?

Tour dates are posted to the MOE-L, moeLinks, the moe.info list, and just about every messsage board when updates or changes are made.

Current tour dates are also available on the official web site at: http://www.moe.org
or on our site here.
All officially announced tour dates are also sent out on the "moe-setlist" mailing list through Yahoo! groups. Sign up at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/moe-setlist/join?referer=1 * to top *


3.10 How do I get on the snail-mailing list?

The moe.snail mail has been discontinued. * to top *


3.11 How can I contact the band?

You can leave a message on the info-line at (212)592-3542, contact them through moe.org, or send them
e-mail:

Snail-mail at:

moe.mail
P O Box 931
Portland ME 04104-0931

For more contacts, look here. * to top *


3.12 How can I contact the band's management?

Top Artist Productions
topper@moe.org
Jon Topper & Dan Getz
(212)-592-3542 (Leave a message after the recording) * to top *


3.13 Who is the band's production company?

Fatboy Productions. After their stint with Sony 550, moe. decided to do everything on their own. Fatboy is an .org run organization. * to top *


3.14 Who do I contact in order to book the band?

Monterey Peninsula Artists
booking@moe.org
for booking, email ONLY
831-655-6900 * to top *


3.15 Who do I contact regarding promotion of the band?

For all things media, contact:
Coppertop Inc.
copper@moe.org
Jim Walsh
(607)-275-8217
(607)-275-8215 - Fax

For fan promotion and marketing, contact:
Melissa Leigh* to top *

.: side projects :.

4.1 Who's that guy with the guitar?
4.2 al.one.
4.3 Merry Danksters.
4.4 Sonic Garden.
4.5 Al and the Transamericans.
4.6 Acoustic Forum.
4.7 Sugar Porn Cops.
4.8 Ha Ha the Moose.
4.9 All Thumbs Trio.
4.10 F.A.L.L.
4.11 Willie Waldman Project.
4.12 Before Cowboys.

4.1 Who's that guy with the guitar?

Most likely, if it's moe. related, it's Al Schneir. Al has been known, on occasion, to play solo acoustic sets. These sets are very informal, often with Al telling stories in between songs. * to top *


4.2 al.one.

Al Schneir released a solo album of electronic music written and performed entirely by Al. Al has brought his al.one show on the road in support of the album. * to top *


4.3 Merry Danksters.

The Merry Dankster tour consisted of evenings of acoustic music and solo performances. It featured:

Jim Loughlin (moe., Yolk), Jim Lomonaco (Yolk) & Chris Noel
Peter Prince (Moon Boot Lover)
Gibb Droll
Max Verna (Ominous Seapods), Tom Pirozzi (Ominous Seapods)
Al Schneir (moe.)
Chuck Garvey (moe.), Dave Rauch (Acoustic Forum) & David Gans

Also featured throughout the tour were members of Strangefolk, Illuminati and freebeerandchicken.

Some of the Merry Danksters reunited for the Merry Dankster II tour in December 1997. * to top *


4.4 Sonic Garden.

Sonic Garden is a Buffalo based band of primarily Grateful Dead covers. Before Vinnie Amico came to play drums for moe., he played with Sonic Garden. On August 22 & 23, 1997, Vinnie reunited with Sonic Garden, bringing with him guitarist Al Schneir, for a two-day tribute to the Dead. Vinnie can still be caught performing with the band every now and again. * to top *


4.5 Al and the Transamericans.

January 1999 saw Al with a nomadic group known at the Transamericans first time. Playing with him were:

Ted Marotta (Ominous Seapods) - drums, vocals
Jim Loughlin (moe., Yolk) - bass, vocals
Kirk Juhas (freebeer&chicken) - keys, harp, banjo, vocals
Rolf Witt (Danksters, Sonic Garden) - mando, fiddle, guitar

The lineup has changed multiple times over the years, including Vinnie, Ken Juhas, Gordon Stone and many others. * to top *


4.6 Acoustic Forum.

A project of Vinnie's including:

Vinnie Amico (moe.) - Drums
Rolf Witt (Merry Danksters) - Fiddle, mandolin, Guitar
Dave Ruch (Merry Danksters) - Mandolin, Guitar
John Yakovou (Sonic Garden) - Guitar
Billy Contable (Doug Dillard Band, Hypnotic Clambake) - Banjo
Elliot Tyler - Bass * to top *


4.7 Sugar Porn Cops.

A funk/jazz project of Vinnie's including:

Vinnie Amico (moe.) - Drums
Fuzz (Deep Banana Blackout) - Guitar
Benj Lefeve (Deep Banana Blackout) - Bass
Rob Somerville (Deep Banana Blackout) - Sax
Brian Mangini (Ominious Seapods) - Keys * to top *


4.8 Ha Ha the Moose.

A moe. side project including: Rob Derhak (moe.) - Bass
Jim Loughlin (moe.) - Drums
Chuck Garvey (moe.) - Guitar

Rob Shiner relays this explaination to the project's name:

"Ha Ha the Moose was coined by Rob's son fast Eddie. Apparently Rob has a toy moose in his house, and when he showed it to fast Eddie, eddie said "Ha Ha the Moose!" Also, the theme song features a segment in it known as "the moose walk." Go back and listen to the tapes, and imagine what it would sound like to hear a moose walking." * to top *


4.9 All Thumbs Trio.

Consisting of:

Chuck Garvey (moe.) - Acoustic Guitar and Dobro
Gibb Droll (Gibb Droll Band) - Acoustic Guitar
Johnny Hickman (Cracker) - Acoustic Guitar and Mandolin * to top *


4.10 F.A.L.L.

Founded by Jim Loughlin the original line up of moe. and Yolk alum consisted of:

Jim Loughlin (moe.) - Vocals and Picolo Bass
Jim Lomonoco (Yolk) - Bass
Vinnie Amico (moe.) - Drums
Dave Fitzhugh (Yolk) - Guitar

A subsequent tour saw Matt Murphy (Yolk) replacing Vinnie Amico on Drums. * to top *


4.11 Willie Waldman Project.

May of 2002 saw Chuck, Vinnie and Jim tour with LA Jazz Trumpeter, Willie Waldman. More information on Willie Waldman can be found here. * to top *


4.12 Before Cowboys.

Before Cowboys is the side project of Al, and his wife Diane.
Diane Schnier, Al Schnier, Gordon Stone, Kirk Juhas, Ken Juhas, Shannon Lynch, Vinnie Amico and other musicians have made up the lineup for shows and the 2 Before Cowboys albums. More information on Diane and Before Cowboys can be found here. * to top *

 

.: questions about songs :.

5.1 What is "Timmy"?
5.2 Who is Farmer Ben and where did he go? When did he return?
5.3 What do you mean the "old" She Sends Me?
5.4 Q&A about a few specific songs.
5.5 Who are Stanley and the Headbreakers?
5.6 "It was a stone groove my man."

5.1 What is "Timmy"?
Timmy is moe.'s first, and only (so far), rock opera. It debuted at the Wetlands Preserve on 2.18.95. In its entirety, Timmy consists of:

Timmy Tucker > Imelda May* > Timmy's Escape > Central Park Troll, Happy Boy, Queen Of The Rodeo > Magical Mystery Cab > Jazz Wank > Roll > Irish Jig > Strychnine Waltz > Timmy's Theme > Birthday Jam > Timmy Tucker reprise * a theme from Imelda May was developed into Californ IA

Timmy was played partially 3.31.95 at The Docksider in Erie PA.
Timmy was played again at the Wetlands Preserve on 4.10.00, though the setlist was slightly varied:

Timmy Tucker > Imelda May > Timmy's Escape > Central Park Troll > Happy Boy > Queen Of The Rodeo, Magical Mystery Cab > Jazz Wank > Roll > Irish Jig > Strychnine Waltz > New York City > Timmy Tucker reprise * to top *


5.2 Who is Farmer Ben and where did he go? When did he return?

Farmer Ben is a song sung by drummer Jim Loughlin and it left the rotation when Jim left the band to join Yolk in 1995. Farmer Ben did make special appearances when touring schedules permitted. Upon Jim's return in January 1999, the band immediately began teasing fans with the "Powerhouse" tease that usually ended Farmer Ben. It wasn't until 9.30.99, at Mississippi Night in St. Louis MO, that moe. treated us to his return during the encore. * to top *


5.3 What do you mean the "old" She Sends Me?

Beginning with its appearance in the moe. rotation (it debuted as an Al solo tune), She Sends Me had a long, drawn-out jam in the middle. It started a little slower with Rob's bass line and grew from there. In June 1996, after the band spent some time in the studio, working on their first major label release, the song re-emerged with the "surf-guitar" segment and no jam. The band had been unhappy with the direction the song was taking. This version has become the staple, but occasionally, other jams will take the place of the surf-guitar (ex: 12.31.96 - reggae-jam). * to top *


5.4 Q&A about a few specific songs.

The following is courtesy of a response by lister Mike Kelter to a few questions asked on the moe-l about some specific songs:

Po' Sadie

** Not played since 1994. It's a moe. original and it was only played in 93 and 94. [This song did make a return on 12.30.98 at Bohagor's in Baltimore MD, but it never did enter the rotation.]

The Game Show Routine (9.9.94)

** I've never encountered anything similar live or on tape.

Internet Tune Jam

** "In the year 2,000..." This was written back in the summer of 95. They jammed it a couple times in the middle of songs, but never played it stand alone. It didn't last through that year. The only time they played it in its entirety was privately. This is *not* the song from LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN, though the band has played this song, too.

Change (listed with no name at That Setlist File)

** An Al song that was also short-lived. Played in late 95 only. It was played during September of 95 all the time. On the setlists that the band used to write, they'd abbreviate this song with a symbol (a delta or something), so that's why it's listed in the Setlist File without a name.

Maceo Parker Jam > Freeway Jam (4.21.96)

** I've commented on this one many times... The band took the stage for the second set and Maceo Parker was going on the house mix. They just picked it up from there and started jamming with it. When the house mix was removed, the band kept playing. They jammed for like half an hour touching on various themes including Moth, Freeway (by Beck) and others. They finally ended the jam by going into CIA!

I Wanna Be 10

** Debuted in the beginning of 96 in the same batch as Bring You Down, CIA, Guitar, Ugly American, etc. It's a silly song that I think Rob wrote.

Hall of Fame (12.31.96)

** This is a Dude of Life song and not a moe. tune. They never played it (to my knowledge) other than at New Years. * to top *


5.5 Who are Stanley and the Headbreakers?

This is in reference to the strange dialog on the recording of Sensory Deprivation Bank recording from Fatboy. It had been posted on the moe-l that this dialog comes from an educational video on psychology. The footage is of a mentally ill patient answering questions.* to top *


5.6 "It was a stone groove my man."

This line from Don't Fuck from Flo is a reference from Trading Places. After Eddie Murphy's party the two guys he was in jail with tell him this as they are walking out the door.
thanks to Jon McLennand * to top *

.: questions about live taping and archiving :.

6.1 Will moe. allow me to tape their live shows?
6.2 Can I set my mic stand up where ever I want?
6.3 What about video taping?
6.4 What is moe.'s position on CD-R's?
6.5 What about mp3 files?
6.6 What is the band's position on photography?
6.7 How can someone without any live tapes get some?
6.8 What are .shns?
6.9 How do I decipher source information?
6.10 What are some particularly good shows to get?
6.11 Does moe. tape their shows themselves?

6.1 Will moe. allow me to tape their live shows?

Absolutely, but there are a few basic guidelines that the band would like tapers to follow:

moe. has some new taping and trading news to report. Starting fall 1999, we will no longer be allowing board patches. We understand that this might discourage some of you, but keep in mind that many tapers get just as good recording quality from audience mics and will hopefully allow those who do not have the necessary equipment to patch in.

moe. is not in a position to offer AC power to any tapers, so, be prepared to supply and use battery power ONLY.

NO mixers of any type, NO Reel to Reel recorders, NO Multitrack recorders, and NO large equip. boxes of any type will be allowed into any venue.

Please stay out of the way of the working crew at all venues.

Live Tapes are a big part of why moe. is growing rapidly, and we want to continue to provide a cozy taping environment for everyone. Please respect the wishes of the band and crew and please feel free to ask questions and make comments. It's always been a goal of ours to make taping as much a part of the show as possible, please help us help you by following common sense at all times. We always try and make it as easy as possible for everyone to enjoy our shows. Respect your neighbors space. * to top *


6.2 Can I set my mic stand up where ever I want?

The band has asked that you do not place your mic stands in certain areas of the venue as it impairs the sight lines of the lighting director, Jeff Waful. Upon arrival at the show, please listen to the crew and obey their wishes. While both crew and band are very enthusiastic about live taping, their top priority is putting on a quality show. At many shows you may be asked not to set up in front of the soundboard. The moe. organization as also expressed a desire that those with microphones share stands when possible. Please, if you have them, bring your clamps. * to top *


6.3 What about video taping??

While video taping was allowed for a long period of time, that is no longer the case. As of Spring 1998, video taping is no longer permitted at moe. shows. There are, however, many quality videos to be found, through trade, for shows prior to this period. For a brief period in early 2004 moe. suspended their video policy in order for fans to partake in the "moe.vie" contest; where they were looking for the best fan movies. You will find some videos from this era circulating as well. * to top *


6.4 What is moe.'s position on CD-R's?

moe. does allowing trading of CD-R. You may not trade any CD-R of moe. albums - only live recordings. The band strongly supports trading of their live shows while discouraging *ANY* sale of live recordings, this includes the so-called "tape fee". moe. has stated that they will end all taping privileges if there is any evidence of sales of any kind.

For further information on CD-R's, check out these resources:

http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/
http://home.earthlink.net/~mzupanek/cdrlinks.htm * to top *


6.5 What about mp3 files?

MP3 and other downloadable formats on the Internet are acceptable, but the band asks the following considerations: the webpage must be dedicated exclusively to moe. content, there cannot be any advertising on the page and no links to pages other than the moe.website. * to top *


6.6 What is the band's position on photography?

In 2006 moe. has decided that they will not allow any type of digital, or professional photography at their shows. Disposable cameras are allowed, and by contacting moe.'s publicist you may be allowed a photo pass, if you are a legitimate photographer. moe. changed their policy due to the growing amount of fans showing up and making amatuer videos of the shows and then circulating them.

The policy holds fast for most every show, however on special occasions, such as moe.down, they may suspend the policy. If they are planning on doing so, there will be an announcement. * to top *


6.7 How can someone without any live tapes get some?

If you are new to moe. and are looking to get some live tapes, there are ways to go about it.


6.8 What are .shn files? .flac? .wav? .aac? .aiff? .mp3?

Shorten (.shn) is a lossless compression format. For a list of moe. .shns in circulation, visit the etree site:
http://db.etree.org/etree_shnlist.php

For more information on the Shorten format visit http://alumni.umbc.edu/~hamilton/shnfaq.html or http://svr-www.eng.cam.ac.uk/~ajr/GroupPubs/Robinson94-tr156/

The Live Music Archive runs a very well maintained FAQ on how to handle all the files you will download, and how to make them playable music for your cd or mp3 player.* to top *


6.9 How do I decipher source information?

Confused by the source information provided on a tape? moe.links has a guide to help you figure them out!
http://www.moelinks.com/random/source/ * to top *


6.10 What are some particularly good shows to get?

2.18.95 Wetlands Preserve - New York NY

moe. headlines the annual Wetlands anniversary show. They played three sets this night, the third being the debut of the Timmy rock opera.

12.31.95 Wetlands Preserve - New York NY

One of Chris Mazur's first performances with the band. He was not familiar with all of the songs in the band's repituare this night, so the songs that he did know were extremely jammed out in order for the band to play, as scheduled, until 7am on January 1st.

2.24.96 Wetlands Preserve - New York NY

Another great night at the Wetlands. Highlights include a stand alone Havah Negilah and a nice version of Meat.

3.12.96 Mercury Cafe - Denver CO

The band's last night of the Colorado run, "so we're going to try and make this one special." They succeeded with some hot jams and great segues. Check out the 1st sets St. Augustine > 32 Things > St. Augustine sandwich. The second set gets even more intense with a nice Moth > Meat > Brent Black.

4.21.96 ADE - New Brunswick NJ

moe. returns to ADE to play a benefit for the New Brunswick Soup Kitchen. Three sets in the warm afternoon sun with plenty of beer and great music made for a fantastic day of music and good vibes. Many highlights here, including Good Guys Bad Guys > Akimbo and a Maceo Parker Jam > Freeway Jam > Californ IA. Chris from Jambay joins the band on mandolin for Yodelittle and again later for Moth.

5.25.96 and 5.26.96 Deadhead Heaven Festival - SUNY Purchase

moe. was extremely excited to be the band opening the festival on Saturday afternoon and closing it on Sunday night and it shows in the performances. Both days are worth getting with great playing all over the place. Check out the Don't Fuck With Flo > Interstellar Overdrive > Californ IA and the Cryptical Envelopment > Meat on the first day. The second was equally smokin' with a 32 Things > Time Again and a Recreational Chemistry with David Gans.

For more suggestions, check out the moe.review.net. It's located at:

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/3722/moern.htm * to top *


6.11 Does moe. tape their shows themselves?

moe. does indeed tape their performances and has since Brendan O'Neill joined on as soundman in March 1995. Though Brendan has long left the crew, matrix tapes are still made of every show to this day.There are also numerous tapes from prior to this time from many different sources. The moe. archives are maintained by Stan Lobitz. Almost every show is there on DAT from the time that Brendan joined the crew.* to top *

.: credits and faq history :.

Currently maintained and property of moelinks, this file has been compiled by Kevin Landry. It made its first appearence in the fall of 1996 when it consisted of twenty-seven questions in six sections. It has gone through thirteen different text versions, and one previous html version as it has grown into the web pages you see today.

As of October 2006 a copyright is maintained by moelinks. A copyright of this file has been claimed by Kevin Landry from November 1996 through October 2006. This file may be reproduced freely as long as it is distributed unchanged and in whole with this copyright notice intact. This file may not be sold, regardless of profit, or included in any file or format that requires payment or fees of any sort. When necessary, the rights and copyrights of this work will be defended by all possible venues.


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